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the U.S may have a secret UFO retrieval program\h
those are just some of the incredible claims laid\h\h

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out by the Pentagon UFO whistleblower David\h
grush now among the claims from gresh is that\h\h

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the government has a non-human aircraft in its\h
possession which has been kept secret from both\h\h

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Congress and the public he recently filed a\h
whistleblower complaint claiming that he gave\h\h

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classified proof to Congress and the intelligence\h
Community Inspector General but while news nation\h\h

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has confirmed Russia's credentials we have not\h
seen nor verify the alleged proof that he claims\h\h

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to have given to investigators here to help me\h
break down some of these claims Bryce Abel it's\h\h

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good to see him again filmmaker and host of the\h
need to know podcast Bryce thanks for being here\h\h

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hi Natasha it's good to be here and it's\h
such an important day thank you we know\h\h

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the Inspector General of the intelligence service\h
has said that Russia's complaint is credible what\h\h

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is your reaction to the Whistleblower story do\h
you think that grush is telling the truth here\h\h

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well I've met Dave grush twice I\h
was there for your need to know uh\h\h

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or rather you're a news Nation interview\h
and also the day before we talked to him\h\h

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um I think he is credible but let's let's set the\h
table for this just a little bit last December the\h\h

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house and the Senate both passed the National\h
Defense authorization act and it was signed by\h\h

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President Biden and it involved actually providing\h
the language for protecting whistleblowers on the\h\h

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subject of UAP or UFOs and he is the first\h
person to come forward and as you pointed\h\h

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out he's a very credible witness and people\h
are really going to see that in the special\h\h

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that comes up tonight so I think uh Dave grush\h
is telling the truth as he knows it the issue\h\h

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of proof is a different one because obviously he\h
was allowed by the Inspector General to tell this\h\h

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story but obviously the defense department isn't\h
letting him walk out of the Pentagon with a piece\h\h

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of spacecraft or a photo of an alien so that's\h
going to have to be what the Congress actually\h\h

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does now they're going to have to get into\h
this Natasha they're going to have to do the\h\h

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investigation I think one of the most shocking\h
claims The Whistleblower made perhaps was about\h\h

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humans being killed by non-human intelligence\h
let's take a listen to that quickly together

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have human beings been hurt\h\h

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or killed by a non-human intelligence while\h
I can't get into the specifics because that\h\h

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would reveal a certain U.S classified operations\h
I was briefed by a few individuals on the program\h\h

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that there were malevolent events like that\h
now I'm scared people have just heard you say

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non-humans May well have murdered human beings\h
that seems to be the case at one point yeah\h\h

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what is your reaction to this well it's it's\h
certainly shocking I I was as shocked as you\h\h

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probably are when you first heard that but the\h
man's credentials are excellent and it is clear\h\h

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that over the last 80 years many many thousands of\h
Americans and people from around the rest of the\h\h

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planet have seen things that cannot be explained\h
that are anomalous and these include pilots and\h\h

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and uh police officers and military people so\h
there's no doubt that there's something going on\h\h

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our own government has told us that the question\h
is what are the details of it well David grush\h\h

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was a person who was so trusted that he was one of\h
the people that worked on the presidential daily\h\h

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briefing and he was even trusted enough to Courier\h
it to the White House so this is a man that you\h\h

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have to take seriously now uh now the hard work\h
has to be begin as I was saying and and I think\h\h

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that the one thing that we have going for us as a\h
nation right now is in a deeply divided time your\h\h

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previous stories uh made that very clear here is\h
an issue that has the beginnings of bipartisan\h\h

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ship the Senate intelligence committee that's\h
taken a lead on a lot of this involves Senator\h\h

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Kirsten gillibrand of New York a Democrat and\h
Senator Marco Rubio of Florida a Republican and\h\h

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they probably don't see eye to eye on most things\h
but they sure do on the subject of the government\h\h

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needing to come clean and tell the people what\h
it actually knows now the idea that people have\h\h

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died possibly he was also referring to the fact\h
that some people who have come in contact with\h\h

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the craft itself have received some kind of Burns\h
and radiation effects but it's it's it's clear if\h\h

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you listen to Dave grush he's saying there's more\h
than one kind of non-human intelligence out there\h\h

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that we're in touch with and that one of them he\h
feels could be described as malevolent so it's a\h\h

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sobering and somber moment for us but I am looking\h
forward to your audience at news Nation seeing\h\h

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him for the hour special you're doing and really\h
looking at this man and taking their own measure\h\h

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of them and asking themselves do I think he's\h
telling the truth and I think if as they listen\h\h

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to him as I have for a couple of days when I did\h
meet him I think he comes across as an honest man\h\h

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that's not the end of the story but it certainly\h
is the beginning of it thank you for watching go\h\h

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so you're absolutely sure that the\h
materials that these craft are made of\h\h

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are clearly not of this Earth yeah they're\h
sophisticatedly engineered certainly not by humans\h\h

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that was UFO whistleblower David grush revealing\h
in a news Nation exclusive that he believes the\h\h

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government has been covering up the existence of\h
alien life but can he be believed let's bring in\h\h

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Bryce zabel he's a writer producer investigative\h
journalist covers UFOs actually does a podcast\h\h

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with the guy doing the interview with grush uh\h
Bryce good to have you on the show thank you\h\h

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thank you for having me and you know I I really\h
want to call out how great I thought your\h\h

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introduction was because it's not about Little\h
Green Men anymore it's not about just lights in\h\h

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the sky but you're proving right now with this\h
coverage that news nation is doing and yourself\h\h

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uh Chris is that the stigma for this whole topic\h
needs to go away we need to take it on like any\h\h

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other story and and get to the bottom of it yeah\h
I mean the part that is I find unacceptable is if\h\h

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they have something that proves or disproves this\h
they should tell us because I I just think it's\h\h

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malfeasance I don't even think it's misfeasons I\h
don't think it's simple negligence I don't even\h\h

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think it's discretion they are intentionally\h
doing something that has three quarters of the\h\h

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population interested and if they could debunk\h
that they should that's transparency now uh let's\h\h

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do our own practice of it here sure uh what do\h
you know about grush and why should we trust them\h\h

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well I know about grush because my partner in\h
that podcast Ross coltarth the man who's doing\h\h

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the interview is someone I've been in contact\h
with obviously on a lot of these issues and a\h\h

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lot of the sources that he's had over uh the time\h
that we've known each other so I've I've seen the\h\h

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grush story coming I did spend a couple of days\h
with Dave grush uh in May uh the day before you\h\h

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guys actually taped the news Nation interview\h
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um I I think Rush is the real deal and I I look\h
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checking him out as they can because I think he\h
checks out wasn't fired uh doesn't have beef that\h\h

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we know about the government hasn't come forward\h
and said he was fired or has beef and in fact he\h\h

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is telling us the truth as far as we know about\h
going to DOD for pre-publication clearance and he\h\h

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was told not to talk about certain things is that\h
your understanding as well well that's what the\h\h

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it's called the dopsa document and it basically\h
allows him to talk about certain things now it's\h\h

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a dangerous game for a person uh like Dave grush\h
because that puts a line there and he has to as\h\h

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he's answering questions for Ross or yourself in\h
the future he has to wonder whether he's going\h\h

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over that line or not so he's got uh you know he's\h
he's obviously being watched by the government to\h\h

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make sure that he stays on the right side of what\h
they're allowing him to talk about but I think it\h\h

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is pretty wild that the the government has said\h
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exactly what he's doing and it's interesting I\h
just I'm not sure people even understand this\h\h

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in addition to all the credentials this guy\h
has he actually worked on the presidential\h\h

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Daily Briefing he was one of the guys trusted\h
to literally walk that briefing over to the\h\h

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White House you know this is not some guy who\h
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who's coming forward with a YouTube video this is\h
a guy who was deeply involved in the intelligence\h\h

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community of the U.S government up until April of\h
this year and he's telling a story that as you've\h\h

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pointed out is pretty radical and yet there's\h
a lot of uh reason to believe that it's true\h\h

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now another contextual tool is corroboration\h
uh you're saying separate from the guy what\h\h

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he is talking about are things you have heard\h
from other sources that are not grush related\h\h

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absolutely um listen I I started as a screenwriter\h
looking into UFOs uh and and so I did a lot of\h\h

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research on it and I I've heard most of the\h
things that he's talking about and I've seen\h\h

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people talk about it I've read about them\h
so you can actually think about this as a\h\h

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secret that's been in plain sight for quite a\h
while uh what's different is that we actually\h\h

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have a Insider with the Merit and with the\h
credentials of Dave grush who's willing to\h\h

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put his career and his own personal safety on\h
the line to to tell us about it so I think it's\h\h

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kind of a heroic thing that he's doing and and\h
I think it may very well turn out when we read\h\h

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the history books of the future they're going\h
to pinpoint uh this time this very time right\h\h

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now that we're in and say this is where things\h
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seriously and get to the bottom of it hey thank\h
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now an update to the story we brought you on\h
Monday regarding that whistleblower documenting\h\h

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what he says is the evidence that U.S recovered\h
alien spacecrafts and beings despite being told\h\h

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for years all of that was a conspiracy theory\h
independent journalist Michael schellenberger\h\h

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has spoken to a number of military and Intel\h
contractors who say now that the U.S is in fact\h\h

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in possession of 12 or more alien spacecraft\h
schellenberger also writes that the reason the\h\h

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pentagon's new program for studying UFOs has not\h
discovered any verifiable information is because\h\h

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quote they may not want to verify it joining us\h
now Bryce Abel he's the host of the need to know\h\h

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podcast an investigative journalist who covers\h
these issues he was also present for the initial\h\h

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interview with the Whistleblower David grush\h
and has spent some time with them as well Bryce\h\h

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now why might the Pentagon not want to verify\h
this information this is on a night where so\h\h

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many people are raising questions about the\h
veracity and the trustworthiness of all of\h\h

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our ins you know key institutions of government\h
but why would they want and want to verify it\h\h

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well you know the information that we're not alone\h
has always been assumed to be a destabilizing\h\h

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kind of thing Laura so uh on one level they could\h
simply say we're just not ready to deal with this\h\h

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let's continue with the political stuff the back\h
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pretty interesting night to be talking about this\h
because the politics of the nation are you know\h\h

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on the front page or the front you know the top\h
of the show but at the same time if this is true\h\h

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what whistleblower Dave grush has said then it's\h
the biggest news story of all time ever and so\h\h

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uh I I think if if there is an attempt to try to\h
come clean on this it's been around for 80 years\h\h

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uh I don't know that they have a good plan for it\h
but they're going to probably have to get one and\h\h

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how important is this though again getting back\h
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long tonight sure that we need to believe that our\h
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and unless there is a specific incredible National\h
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that after decades and Decades of questions and\h
in sightings and and firsthand Witnesses here\h\h

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how do you how do you not come forward and say\h
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investigating how do you not at least do that\h
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been asked for the last uh 12 presidential\h
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is the first time where this issue has been\h
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issue you've had the Senate intelligence committee\h
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in that are Senator Kirsten gillibrand who\h
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a Republican and they probably don't agree on many\h
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this issue of unidentified anomalous phenomena\h
so more power to them and that is exactly what's\h\h

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going to happen now uh these very statements that\h
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classified session before many uh to at least two\h
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11 hours about this and he's provided names dates\h
programs locations so he's basically challenged\h\h

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the Senate and the house if you want to know\h
more about this I'll tell you where to go look\h\h